Comments for Samuel Hulick http://www.samuelhulick.com Problem Solver. With Website Stuff. Mon, 10 Oct 2011 19:20:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 Comment on On Altruism in Design by Samuel http://www.samuelhulick.com/2011/10/on-altruism-in-design/#comment-1534 Samuel Mon, 10 Oct 2011 19:20:04 +0000 http://www.samuelhulick.com/?p=197#comment-1534 @Billy That's a relevant post for sure. I'm trying to understand why people are so quick to call this spec work - the AIGA defines it as "work done prior to engagement with a client in anticipation of being paid." As they're very clear about the poster campaign not being pay work, how does this still apply? Or for you, is it less an issue of compensation and more an issue of the work possibly being used or not? @Billy That’s a relevant post for sure.

I’m trying to understand why people are so quick to call this spec work – the AIGA defines it as “work done prior to engagement with a client in anticipation of being paid.”

As they’re very clear about the poster campaign not being pay work, how does this still apply? Or for you, is it less an issue of compensation and more an issue of the work possibly being used or not?

]]> Comment on On Altruism in Design by Billy http://www.samuelhulick.com/2011/10/on-altruism-in-design/#comment-1527 Billy Sun, 09 Oct 2011 01:58:27 +0000 http://www.samuelhulick.com/?p=197#comment-1527 I see how you are concerned about being able to volunteer for a worthy cause. But spec work is not volunteering. Volunteering is donating time that will (should) be utilized by the cause you deem worthy. And I think it's rather relevant that you ask, since you are volunteering your time so generously to help AIGA Portland build our new web site. In fact there was similar concern when we asked for volunteers last year. I actually wrote a rather lengthy response to the difference between spec work and pro bono here: http://aigaportland.org/news/aigas-stand-spec-work-vs-pro-bono I see how you are concerned about being able to volunteer for a worthy cause. But spec work is not volunteering. Volunteering is donating time that will (should) be utilized by the cause you deem worthy.

And I think it’s rather relevant that you ask, since you are volunteering your time so generously to help AIGA Portland build our new web site. In fact there was similar concern when we asked for volunteers last year. I actually wrote a rather lengthy response to the difference between spec work and pro bono here:

http://aigaportland.org/news/aigas-stand-spec-work-vs-pro-bono

]]> Comment on On Altruism in Design by Rob http://www.samuelhulick.com/2011/10/on-altruism-in-design/#comment-1526 Rob Sat, 08 Oct 2011 22:08:25 +0000 http://www.samuelhulick.com/?p=197#comment-1526 "Vitriol" is such a great word. Well put, Samuel and Ben, too. I don't support or participate in design competitions personally, but I don't assume that I can speak on behalf of every designer out there. Whining about a competition, or berating the people asking for participation, or those participating, is not productive. If your intention is to garner respect for the design community, well, you're not doing us any favors. My take on this specific campaign: take it or leave it, and don't act like you speak for everyone. I think the campaign was clear about the terms. If someone feels very strongly about re-electing the President and has time/effort/skill that they want to give away, why not? Each of us could stand to give something away, not expecting anything in return, for whatever cause we personally believe in. Anyone who doesn't feel strongly, or feels quite the opposite, should consider exercising a little tact, respectfully decline, move along and do something meaningful. “Vitriol” is such a great word. Well put, Samuel and Ben, too. I don’t support or participate in design competitions personally, but I don’t assume that I can speak on behalf of every designer out there. Whining about a competition, or berating the people asking for participation, or those participating, is not productive. If your intention is to garner respect for the design community, well, you’re not doing us any favors.

My take on this specific campaign: take it or leave it, and don’t act like you speak for everyone.

I think the campaign was clear about the terms. If someone feels very strongly about re-electing the President and has time/effort/skill that they want to give away, why not? Each of us could stand to give something away, not expecting anything in return, for whatever cause we personally believe in.

Anyone who doesn’t feel strongly, or feels quite the opposite, should consider exercising a little tact, respectfully decline, move along and do something meaningful.

]]> Comment on On Altruism in Design by Samuel http://www.samuelhulick.com/2011/10/on-altruism-in-design/#comment-1524 Samuel Sat, 08 Oct 2011 20:19:30 +0000 http://www.samuelhulick.com/?p=197#comment-1524 @Ben Thanks for the response and especially the clarification. I have to admit, it was my mistaken impression that this was a campaign put out by Obama's presidential <em>office</em>, not his presidential <em>campaign</em>. I'm in full agreement that there's a big difference between submitting something to the greater good (where it's owned by "all of us") and signing away rights to an individual or organization. Point well-taken on the notion that it's not just about compensation, it's about ownership! @Ben Thanks for the response and especially the clarification. I have to admit, it was my mistaken impression that this was a campaign put out by Obama’s presidential office, not his presidential campaign.

I’m in full agreement that there’s a big difference between submitting something to the greater good (where it’s owned by “all of us”) and signing away rights to an individual or organization.

Point well-taken on the notion that it’s not just about compensation, it’s about ownership!

]]> Comment on On Altruism in Design by Ben http://www.samuelhulick.com/2011/10/on-altruism-in-design/#comment-1523 Ben Sat, 08 Oct 2011 20:02:54 +0000 http://www.samuelhulick.com/?p=197#comment-1523 Very good post with good points. I agree that it's very important to volunteer our services to things we believe in, and your doctor analogy is a great point. When it comes to the Obama poster request, the reason I responded with a respectful "No" is due to the fact that it is not a request for humane causes, but for a political campaign, and by submitting a design it becomes 100% property of the Obama campaign. This is not a civil request by the United States government for poster designs promoting Job growth. It's requesting promo material for his re-election which I feel should be the responsibility of those in charge of his campaign. I hope that makes sense, and again thanks for the post, I completely agree that we should not be dogmatic. Very good post with good points. I agree that it’s very important to volunteer our services to things we believe in, and your doctor analogy is a great point. When it comes to the Obama poster request, the reason I responded with a respectful “No” is due to the fact that it is not a request for humane causes, but for a political campaign, and by submitting a design it becomes 100% property of the Obama campaign. This is not a civil request by the United States government for poster designs promoting Job growth. It’s requesting promo material for his re-election which I feel should be the responsibility of those in charge of his campaign. I hope that makes sense, and again thanks for the post, I completely agree that we should not be dogmatic.

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